Seems like it’s an issue for potential new joiners
Reddit has the benefit of being closed source and therefore having secret anti spam filters. We don’t have that benefit and therefore the new user registrations need to be rigorous. “frictionless registrations” also means thousands of spam bots. Reddit doesn’t require any but the downside is that they ban your account at the drop of a hat if they as much as suspect you’re a spammer or bot. However it does leave their registration appearing “simple”.
Reddit has the benefit of being closed source and therefore having secret anti spam filters. We don’t have that benefit and therefore the new user registrations need to be rigorous.
This is a bs argument considering that instances can and indeed a few already do maintain similar automated anti-spam and auto-moderation tools. The droves of instances that choose to function as clubs with application process aren’t doing it that way because it’s the only way, they’re doing it because they want to or don’t understand how to set up automoderation tools.
Reddit doesn’t require any but the downside is that they ban your account at the drop of a hat if they as much as suspect you’re a spammer or bot. However it does leave their registration appearing “simple”.
That is true, and it does seem to be a problem on instances that use aggressive automod like sh.itjust.works, though it does streamline the process by going from preemptively trying to deem people unworthy to punishing and cleaning out the ones who cause trouble (give or take a few false positives). People don’t have to be worried they won’t be rejected if all they want to do is look at memes, upvote, and laugh (we shouldn’t expect more from them on a Reddit alternative).
This is a bs argument considering that instances can and indeed a few already do maintain similar automated anti-spam and auto-moderation tools.
Seems weird to say this to the creator of https://gui.fediseer.com/
Why? It’s true and if the Lemmy Devs themselves aren’t even aware of the existence of effective auto-moderation on the Fediverse I’m not going to assume anyone else is either. People aren’t exactly bragging about or advertising auto-moderation tools on Lemmy so it’s understandable they’d be less known about and also less deployed.
How do you know they’re not aware?
Anyone can find those comments about the 3 largest instances
Tbh I kinda agree with this comment:
I’ve said it before, we need the lowest possible barrier to entry possible if we are to be successful at attracting users in greater numbers, especially casual ones (which are desperately needed here).
I was surprised by the comment about contrast, knowing that the /r/blind community switched to Lemmy.
Just had a look at what https://rblind.com/ looks like. Hm, yeah, definitely different.
About the double input for password, Google still uses it, so it seems to still be an industry standard
Confirm password fields reduces conversion rates. Google has such a chokehold on the market that I doubt they care about that and might be more interested in potentially reducing password reset traffic after miss typed password inputs. Though in fairness I think it’s doubtful if there is even a benefit in that area from having confirm password fields. At least if you have a proper unmasking or “show password” option while registering.
At least if you have a proper unmasking or “show password” option while registering.
I just tried on both Voyager and Photon, and indeed none of them have an “unmask” button for the passwords. @aeharding@lemmy.world and @Xylight@lemdro.id, do you think it would be possible to add that?
Ironically, the default Lemmy UI does:
There’s no way to revert the warning, at least without forking the app. Also, I’d expect most people to accept the idea applications once you tell the purpose (to fight bots).
I see. @flamingos@feddit.uk, do you think it would be possible to change the message to make it less “scary” to potential new joiners?
Sure, you’d just have to change this line, though I’m no sure what would be better.
Hey there! To hop onto this server, we just need you to answer a few questions. Don’t worry, an admin will check them out before giving you the green light! This little step helps us make sure you’re a real human and not a bot. You aren’t a bot, are you? 🤨
It’s a longer message, but much more casual and friendly.
Admins don’t manually check each application for the largest servers